Comments on: What Keeps Microsoft Up Late? http://citrixblogger.org/2008/03/24/what-keeps-microsoft-up-late/ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:20:10 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: citrix tips http://citrixblogger.org/2008/03/24/what-keeps-microsoft-up-late/#comment-1531 citrix tips Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:37:44 +0000 http://citrixblogger.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-1531 i heard it was june as well i heard it was june as well

]]> By: Windows XP and June 30 2008 « Citrix Blogger http://citrixblogger.org/2008/03/24/what-keeps-microsoft-up-late/#comment-1190 Windows XP and June 30 2008 « Citrix Blogger Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:01:17 +0000 http://citrixblogger.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-1190 [...] XP and June 30 2008 Based on a previous post about Microsoft, it was mentioned in a comment that Microsoft was going to discontinue selling Windows XP on June [...] [...] XP and June 30 2008 Based on a previous post about Microsoft, it was mentioned in a comment that Microsoft was going to discontinue selling Windows XP on June [...]

]]> By: Tomahawk! http://citrixblogger.org/2008/03/24/what-keeps-microsoft-up-late/#comment-1156 Tomahawk! Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:08:30 +0000 http://citrixblogger.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-1156 I have to agree a little with "Blad_Rnr" MSFT, has lost many battles and it doesn't know it yet. I also agree that Apple really doesn't want to step into the corporate enterprise market. It looked as though they were toying the idea when they came out with Apple Xsan, Xserve, but then they really didn't go fourth in promoting either one. They are great both products, but you wouldn't know it unless you heard about them by word of mouth (US Army uses them to run their www.army.mil http://www.apple.com/itpro/profiles/army/), and it looks like Apple is even dropping their Xsan line, and instead partnering with a different vendor because they just weren't making any money (http://www.tuaw.com/2008/02/19/xserve-raid-no-longer-available-apple-partners-with-promise).. Apple already has an Office Suite.....it's called iWork, and it's really a great alternative to MS Office, but again they don't promote it. I think that if they want to get serious in the Corporate IT world then they need to join up with Google, and come out with a new version of iWork which ties into Google's Doc and Spreadsheets (MSFT, biggest threat in my opinion). I really could see them joining up with Sun and tying MySQL into to it some way also to compete against MS SQL and/or MS Acess. Is going to happen....I don't know, the CEO of Google is on Apple's board of directors, and Apple has a history Sun in the past (long past), so the potential is there....it's just a question if they'll take it. I think they will in a couple years as the iPhone takes off, probably about the time when Windows 7 comes out. MSFT will be hurt fro the poor response to Vista, and they will be weaker then they are today (the perfect time). I have to agree a little with “Blad_Rnr” MSFT, has lost many battles and it doesn’t know it yet. I also agree that Apple really doesn’t want to step into the corporate enterprise market. It looked as though they were toying the idea when they came out with Apple Xsan, Xserve, but then they really didn’t go fourth in promoting either one. They are great both products, but you wouldn’t know it unless you heard about them by word of mouth (US Army uses them to run their http://www.army.mil http://www.apple.com/itpro/profiles/army/), and it looks like Apple is even dropping their Xsan line, and instead partnering with a different vendor because they just weren’t making any money (http://www.tuaw.com/2008/02/19/xserve-raid-no-longer-available-apple-partners-with-promise)..
Apple already has an Office Suite…..it’s called iWork, and it’s really a great alternative to MS Office, but again they don’t promote it. I think that if they want to get serious in the Corporate IT world then they need to join up with Google, and come out with a new version of iWork which ties into Google’s Doc and Spreadsheets (MSFT, biggest threat in my opinion). I really could see them joining up with Sun and tying MySQL into to it some way also to compete against MS SQL and/or MS Acess. Is going to happen….I don’t know, the CEO of Google is on Apple’s board of directors, and Apple has a history Sun in the past (long past), so the potential is there….it’s just a question if they’ll take it. I think they will in a couple years as the iPhone takes off, probably about the time when Windows 7 comes out. MSFT will be hurt fro the poor response to Vista, and they will be weaker then they are today (the perfect time).

]]> By: VW http://citrixblogger.org/2008/03/24/what-keeps-microsoft-up-late/#comment-1155 VW Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:34:03 +0000 http://citrixblogger.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-1155 I hope Apple makes their move on the day that MSFT pulls the plug on XP. I hope Apple makes their move on the day that MSFT pulls the plug on XP.

]]> By: Blad_Rnr http://citrixblogger.org/2008/03/24/what-keeps-microsoft-up-late/#comment-1149 Blad_Rnr Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:02:08 +0000 http://citrixblogger.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-1149 Great commentary. Let's talk about that MSFT licensing. When the OS vendor is making more money than the hardware vendor, and there is no end in sight to this, what are companies like Dell and HP supposed to do? I have said for years that Dell should have made their own OS using Linux as a platform. It's too late now. They don't have the funds and the timing is bad. Apple is now a serious player. I would like to see Apple license Mac OS X to HP to get cheaper boxes out there. Maybe they are for Enterprise-only customers. Then Apple starts supporting Lotus Notes. Sure, Notes is already a client for Macs. But it needs to be just as good as the Windows client. But at the end of the day it's all about money. There is no money to be made in the Enterprise without a lot of headaches and planning. The cracks are too small. The future I see is one where Apple dominates the consumer market for PCs, and they make some headway into the corporate world where it makes sense. The truth is Apple doesn't want the Enterprise for the Mac market. They do see a great opportunity for the iPhone. And maybe that is where the money is right now. It may sell more Macs, but I am not betting on it. Apple is selling to consumers very well right now, and making hefty profits. Apple is not willing to go after a market unless they can make a lot of money now. So far so good. MSFT is waging wars they should not be fighting. The truth is they have cash cows in Windows and Office, but they don't know where the new markets are. They had plenty of time to get into music. They didn't. They had plenty of time to get into search. They didn't. They had plenty of time to get into the game arena. They didn't. They have lost those wars but they don't know it yet. Until MSFT can figure out the Next Big Thing, they will slowly erode in market-share and in profits. Look at their cash horde. It's been eroding every quarter for the last two years. The Enterprise better hope MSFT keeps allowing them to buy XP for the next 2-3 years. If they really want to pull the plug on XP in June, watch their profits take a nose-dive. Great commentary.

Let’s talk about that MSFT licensing. When the OS vendor is making more money than the hardware vendor, and there is no end in sight to this, what are companies like Dell and HP supposed to do? I have said for years that Dell should have made their own OS using Linux as a platform. It’s too late now. They don’t have the funds and the timing is bad. Apple is now a serious player.

I would like to see Apple license Mac OS X to HP to get cheaper boxes out there. Maybe they are for Enterprise-only customers. Then Apple starts supporting Lotus Notes. Sure, Notes is already a client for Macs. But it needs to be just as good as the Windows client.

But at the end of the day it’s all about money. There is no money to be made in the Enterprise without a lot of headaches and planning. The cracks are too small. The future I see is one where Apple dominates the consumer market for PCs, and they make some headway into the corporate world where it makes sense.

The truth is Apple doesn’t want the Enterprise for the Mac market. They do see a great opportunity for the iPhone. And maybe that is where the money is right now. It may sell more Macs, but I am not betting on it. Apple is selling to consumers very well right now, and making hefty profits. Apple is not willing to go after a market unless they can make a lot of money now. So far so good.

MSFT is waging wars they should not be fighting. The truth is they have cash cows in Windows and Office, but they don’t know where the new markets are. They had plenty of time to get into music. They didn’t. They had plenty of time to get into search. They didn’t. They had plenty of time to get into the game arena. They didn’t. They have lost those wars but they don’t know it yet. Until MSFT can figure out the Next Big Thing, they will slowly erode in market-share and in profits. Look at their cash horde. It’s been eroding every quarter for the last two years.

The Enterprise better hope MSFT keeps allowing them to buy XP for the next 2-3 years. If they really want to pull the plug on XP in June, watch their profits take a nose-dive.

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